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Episode 029 - Latest Cloud News from TechEd North America 2014 Keynotes

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[0:01] Andrew: This is the Microsoft Cloud Show Episode 29, where we're going to talk to CJ about some of the latest news he's heard announced at TechEd in Houston, May 2014.

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[0:17] Andrew: Welcome to the Microsoft Cloud Show, the only place to stay up-to-date on everything going on in the Microsoft Cloud world including Windows Azure, Office 365, SharePoint, Exchange, Lync and related technologies. Just the information, no marketing, no BS. I'm Andrew Connell.

[0:34] Chris: And I'm Chris Johnson.

[0:35] Andrew: And weíre just two dudes telling you how we see it.

[0:38] Andrew: All right, here we are with episode 29. So, today I guess I'm going to talk to CJ a little bit about what announcements he's hearing at TechEd in North America, out in Houston. So first, how are you doing today, CJ?

[0:51] Chris: Pretty good, thank you, pretty good. It's nice and toasty down here in Houston, but also very humid. So, not really something I'm all that used to.

[1:02] Andrew: Welcome to my neck of the wood, I'm not in Houston, but their weather's very similar to where I am, so it'sóyeah, I was doing a bunch of yard work this weekend and I think I went for about two gallons of water just in the morning, just sweating like crazy.

[1:19] Chris: Yeah, you see that's funny, you live in a place where you need to take on borderóon water, that's right, you need to take water on and in then everybody in Washington, where I live complaints about there being too much water that they're absorbing.

[1:34] Andrew: Yeah, we sweatówe justówe take it in and dump it right out. We just kind ofóso, we sweat it right out.

[1:41] Chris: Yeah, let's no go there. Anywayó

[1:46] Andrew: Yeah, it's all good.

[1:46] Chris: Nice. So, how about you?

[1:48] Andrew: It's been going good. Just staying busy, working on a couple different projects and yeah, nothing crazy to report on, just same old-same old.

[1:58] Chris: Excellent!

[2:00] Andrew: Yeah, I didójust one little recap, I guess, in the last episode that we published, we asked people at the end of the episode and put a blog post out asking people about some feedback to kind of do a tapping the mic and asking if this thing is on, if anybody listens to this, if they really enjoy it, what do they think, if they don't enjoy it, what do they think and we had a couple of people actually wrote something in and then we got one comment that stood out, a note to both you and I, but it kind ofóit took me off guard and we asked his permission if we could read it on the show. So, I'll go ahead and do that now. His name is, and I apologize right now if I mispronounce your last name but, his name is Greg Einberg and he says, "I have come to rely on you guys for up-to-date cloud news on the SharePoint Online/Office 365 developer and I've been able to cut down on the number of blog post that I have three each week to stay on top of the news. Bottom line, I'm more productive because of the show. The initial premise that drew me in was that you guys would digest this information quicker than me, and therefore make it useful. Please continue to do that, Marc Anderson was popular because the subject was very high." I believe he means the Marc Anderson interview that we did.

[3:17] Chris: Yeah, yeah.

[3:18] Andrew: And he said, "It's also very near and dear to every cloud developers pain point. Thank you for the time you guys put into this." So Greg, thank you very much, really appreciate that comment, that stuff that we wereóthis kind of feedbackóof course, that kind of specific feedback, that's exactly we were hoping somebody would say, but in general, we were hoping that people would give us some feedback like that. So I really do appreciate it, Greg.

[3:40] Chris: That's awesome like I'móit just makes me grin from ear to ear hearing that somebody's getting value out of what we're doing. So, that's really, really great. Thanks, Greg.

[3:50] Andrew: Yeah, and so this show, we got a couple ideas for some other shows that some people have submitted some ideas as well. We got a couple things in the hopper and got a couple interviews lined up and we've started the show initially to say we weren't going to do any interviews but we've done one or two and they've been quite popular. So, we're going to doóstill line them up every here and there and throw them in as well and I believe it might be the next episode or like in the next couple of weeks, in the next week or something like, next few days. I'm not really sure what the timing is but an interview that you and I did, I haven't told you this Chris, but the interview you and I did with Rob Foster at the SharePoint pod show, he's mixed the show and everything and so that's supposed to be coming out fairly soon. I listened to it a bit but it's interesting because we did the interview, I'd say was, like late 2013, like November-December timeframe of 2013 and the show's going to come out about now. So there are some things that are going to be a little bit dated. I think weó

[4:53] Chris: Yeah, like I think I was still working in my previous job!

[4:55] Andrew: You're working in your previous job and I think we made a comment about how we had just mixed and published episode eight of the podcast, of our podcast.

[5:05] Chris: Wow! That was a long time ago.

[5:06] Andrew: Yeah, with this being 29, that'sówe've moved along a good bit, but it's cool. It's going to be kind of interesting to see howóas I was listening to this like, Oh! Things have changed, but at any rateó

[5:17] Chris: That will be fun to listen back on.

[5:19] Andrew: Yeah, so and other thing, somebody asked this, and some of the feedback was, they asked us to do a littleómake a little comment every once in a while on the show to kind of where you and I would be, where can people find us, what conferences or what events are we're going to be at. So, I'll ask you first, you got any events that are coming up where you are speaking or you're going to beó

[5:38] Chris: Yeah.

[5:39] Andrew: People can come find you other than TechEd?

[5:41] Chris: Yeah, well other than TechEd, yeah. So, this week is TechEd in Houston obviously and so I am here at the moment and I'm holed up in my hotel room actually recording this. So, thanks for theóyeah, sorry for the poor sound quality, but never mind. So following this, the next show I'm going to is the Worldwide Partner Conference, which is in DC and that's 13th through the 17th July.

[6:09] Andrew: Washington DC, right?

[6:10] Chris: Yeah, sorry. Yeah, Washington DC. So, yeah WPC is, for short, Worldwide Partner Conference, it's a big Microsoft event. It's pretty large that usually it's about 12,000 people or so. So, it's a big one. And then later in July, on the 22nd and 23rd I'll be at Debbie Ireland's Conference in New Zealand, the SharePoint conference down there. So, she puts on the SharePoint Conference, New Zealand and there's one on Australia that she does as well that are quite close, but I'll be just going to the New Zealand one, and that's because the Australian one happens to overlap with WPC. So, I can't go to both unfortunately. So, that's July, so that'sóyeah, WPC followed by a SharePoint Conference in New Zealand and then in September, I'm going and speaking at SharePointalooza. So, this is from the 12th and 13th of September. This is a conference, it's quite an organic kind of grassroots conference organized by Mark Rackley, that's in Branson, Missouri, which is a fascinating place. I've been there once before and thoroughly enjoyed my time. So, SharePointalooza.org, registrations are open now and so you can go sign-up for that, it's a two day thing but there's going to be bands and sessions and all that sort of stuff and I'm one of keynotes along with Steve Smith from the UK actually, who's doing another one of the keynotes for that event. That's a real grassroots event right, so it's always a lot of fun to go to and get involved in.

[7:59] Andrew: Yeah, that's one I've alwaysó

[7:59] Chris: And then finallyósorry, go ahead.

[8:00] Andrew: I was going to say that's one that I've always wantedóI know it'sóI shouldn't say always because it'sóthis is only the second one, I believe right, this is the second time he's put this on?

[8:10] Chris: I think so, yes. I think in Branson, yeah.

[8:14] Andrew: And I've wanted to do this last year and then I want to do it this year and just scheduling conflicts, just weren't very nice to me. So, hopefully next year. So, we'll see.

[8:25] Chris: Right, right. So, yeah. I urge anybody that's in that area to go to SharePointalooza.org and we'll link off to it in the show notes and go sign up for the event. There's a real small charge involved because they're doing a whole lot of things around entertainment and bands and T-shirts and stuff like that. So, there is a small fee for that one. And then in November 18th and 19th, I'm going to Amsterdam to go talk at SharePoint Connect, which is a conference over there. So that's going to be exciting. That's going to be my first conference over in Europe for a little while and yeah, I'm looking forward to going to it. It's going to be great fun and good opportunity to get over to that neck of the woods.

[9:12] Andrew: Very cool. Sounds like a lot of fun, a lot of busy summer and fall had in for you.

[9:17] Chris: Yeah, there's a few others that are sort of percolating too. So, there's SP TechCon in Boston, potentially I'm not a 100% on that one yet, but talking with those guys, so we'll see if I can get to that.

[9:33] Andrew: Very cool, very cool.

[9:34] Chris: Yeah, how about yourself? What is [9:37] look like?

[9:38] Andrew: It's not as crazy as it usually gets, which is nice. I think I'm only doing three more conferences this year. So, I'm teachingómy next gig is I'm teaching what's called the Great SharePoint Adventure. It's a five day developer classroom training for Critical Path Training up in the Boston area. It's kind of nice, we're teaching the Microsoft Cambridge office. That's the first week of June. So, that'll beóthere's obviously registration built into that. So, if anybody's interested, make sure you go registered for that, that one sells out. And then later in June, the week ofóI guess, I'm picking it up halfway through but there's a thing called the SharePoint Evolutions, it's a conference that Steve Smith, you just mentioned him a minute ago, you're keynoting with him at SharePointalooza, he puts on a conference usually every year and this year he's doing something called the Road Show. It's a little bit different because he usually does a show in April and he didn't want to go right up against the SharePoint Conference in Las Vegas that we had around the same time he does his show. So, he's doing a Road Show and I can't remember exactly where it starts, but it starts in the southern part of the UK and just does like a littleóevery other day or every day hits a different city like London or Aberdeen and just kind of moves all the way up from the southern part of UK, all the way up into Scotland and then jumps over to Ireland to Northern Ireland and makes his way down to Dublin. So, I'm going to be at the Newcastle, Edinburg, Aberdeen, Belfast and Dublin events to do couple sessions there. And then, I am going to really enjoy taking all of July and August off from all business travel it appears.

[11:22] Chris: Nice, very nice.

[11:24] Andrew: And then September, I hope to see you at SP TechCon in Boston. I just got confirmed that I've got a workshop in three breakout sessions, also doing a conference down in Orlando called SP Live and that's the one that I'm one of the co-chairs for that conference. So, we are actively picking sessions and speakers and organizing the agenda and I believe we got everything all selected and sorted and organized and we're just in the final little bit to that, so just working on trying to figure out what we're going to do about the keynote and some other things to kind of get that kind of put together. So, that's what it looks like for me going forward. I think I haven'tóI'm teaching another class for Critical Path Training too in the Tampa area later this fall, well I can't remember the date off the top of my head, but that's months away.

[12:15] Chris: Yeah, it's funny that my wife just the other day said, "Oh, god! We better think about Christmas." And I'm like, "But that's a long way away" and she's like, "Yeah, but it's rapidly sneaking up" and then I look at the sort ofóthe list of events and the list of trips and the various work things I've got to go do and she's right, like it'sóChristmas is going to be right around the corner before I know it.

[12:39] Andrew: Yeah, it was funny because we had aóI was with my parents this weekend, we live in the same city and my mom was asking, "So, what are you all planning this summer? We're going to be able toógo to any kind of vacations or anything this summer?" I'm like, "You're kidding me, right? It's like early May and you're just now asking about this? We've beenóthe whole summer is planned away, kids in camps andóbut, at any rate. Well, cool so, again what we're going to do talk about on the show, enough about you and me, ha-ha!

[13:09] Chris: Yeah, fair enough.

[13:11] Andrew: What we want to do on the show, we had a couple ideas for different show episodes are lined up but in this one, since you're at TechEd and we're actually, in one of the rare feats, we're actually recording the show the day before we go live with it. So, today, or at least that's the plan, if it goes out tomorrow, then we'll if that was true, tomorrow being Tuesday, May 13. So, today was the first day of TechEd and TechEd North America, 2014 in Houston and there was a bunch of different announcements that went on, you are there, you're in the keynote room, so we got a couple of things just to ask you about just to give people a little bit of an update on what they might've missed out and give it to them and we can give it to them more in the abridged version that is a long form, you know, two-hour keynoter or hour and 30-Minute keynote, so.

[13:59] Chris: Yeah, I mean it wasó

[13:59] Andrew: Before we do that, I justóreal quick, there is a survey that Microsoft has put out. It's the fourth annual version of this survey. It's the Cloud Computing Survey. We'll have a link to this in the show notes for anybody that's trying to take notes on this. It's theóif you just go to surveymonkey.com/s/microsoftnb that will take you to a little survey that Microsoft's collecting a bunch of responses and then they'll publish the report from those responses in due time. So, that would be one I'd definitely recommend all of our listeners to go take a look at. So for TechEd, let's dive into the announcements here. The only one that I know anything about, because you're the one that's there, I'll go and do mine first and we'll ask you about all the other ones, how does that sound?

[14:45] Chris: Sounds great.

[14:46] Andrew: Okay, so the first one that I saw, this is pretty simple, it's theóthey announced that theófor the Azure Virtual Machines, the Compute Intensive Instances, now these are the ones that areóthey go by the codenames, A8 and A9 and they have either eight virtual cores or 16 cores and then the amount of memory that's allocated to them is either 56 Gigs or 112 Gigs and their networking is crazy networking inbound on these guys, it's 40 Gigabits infinity band. The announcement for this one is that they've gone from preview to general availability for anybody go grabócan go create instances on those guys. They're not cheap, you're looking at the cheapest data center, I believe they're aboutófrom the A8 Instance is $2.45 an hour, which comes out to about $1800 a month and A9 is up to $4.90 an hour, which comes out to about $36-3700. So, you get some really intensive things you got to do, those are great instances and if you areóI wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people use those just to fire it up to get a bunch of work done and then shut them down so they don't have this $3000 billed in a month for their VM.

[16:02] Chris: Yeah, those are big boys right, those VMs.

[16:06] Andrew: Yeah, so let's stick on the theme of Azure, the Azure Cloud News. So, I heard about something called the Azure Management APIs, so why don't you tell us a little bit about this?

[16:16] Chris: Yes, so this was a really cool new service in Azure, and so at first when you hear Azure API Management Service you think, "Oh, it's going to be a bunch of new APIs for Azure," but in fact, what it really is, is it's a tool for those who are building and deploying APIs into Azure. So, for your SaaS product or your Apple, what have you, you might have said a web service or an API that you let people call, and so what the Azure API Management Service let you do is it sort of fronts your API, it puts a proxy, if you will, between your customers and your API and then that allows you to do some interesting things with it. So, it monitors the API usage, it can show you how many people are calling it and so forth, it can show you statistics on those sort of things, but the other thing it can also do is it can give a nice sort of help pages, documentation and samples right out of the box for those who want to consume your API. So, you front your API with this thing and then it will be able to give you your users and your developers a nice front-end tool to be able to learn how to use your API and to get up and running with it. So, it's pretty cool, it pretty nifty.

[17:44] Andrew: Yes, I'm aware when I saw the thing earlier today when I talked about an Azure Management API and listening to it or looking at some of the notes that came out, I thought it was exactly what you said it wasn't, which is, "Oh, they got new Management APIs for able to get in, I wonder how these are different from the other ones?" So, not at all what that is.

[18:01] Chris: Yeah, yeah, that wasóI think it's really going to be quite cool foróbecause one of the challenges is you go deploy a web API or web service or something like that and you want insights into how people are using it and how often unless you roll your own analytics. It's quite hard to do and so I think this will solve that problem really cleanly and nicely.

[18:22] Andrew: Interesting! So, another one that I saw and I guess we can stick with thatóI know there's a couple Office 365 and Office related things, so let's try and stay with the Azure stuff. I saw something about ExpressRoute and Hybrid Cloud Networking Technology.

[18:36] Chris: Yeah, yeah, ExpressRoute isóso, you know how we've spoken on the show before about site-to-site VPNs and point-to-site VPNs?

[18:45] Andrew: Yes.

[18:46] Chris: So, this is kind of along similar lines except Azure ExpressRoute lets you set up a dedicated sort of tunnel, if you will, or dedicated connection into the Azure Data Centers from your On-Prem environment, but it doesn't do it over the public internet. So, the way it does this is you have to be on a particular networking partner like AT&T, Equinox, Verizon, BT and Level Three, they've got listed here. And soóand there's some others, Telecity Group, SingTel and Zadara. So, you have to be on one of these Telcos and they provide you one of these sort of dedicated pipe straight into the Azure Data Center. And so, that's nice because it means that you've gotóthere's much more sort of enterprise grade connections now as opposed to these VPNs over the internet to get right into your environments that you might have hosted up in Azure. And so, I guess these Telcos provides dedicated bandwidth options and all these variations of different tiers and that sort of thing that you can buy from them.

[20:05] Andrew: I guess that kind of just makes it seem like you have your local On-Prem environments now are almost can be seen as just living inside of Azure if you get that kind of dedicated speed, having all your stuffóyou really are out of the infrastructure business, but you get to maintain the nice, powerful connection.

[20:27] Chris: Exactly!

[20:28] Andrew: So, it's like it's On-Prem, you don't have that little bit of a delay being over the WAN.

[20:31] Chris: Yeah, I mean you could do this with a site-to-site connection between your enterprise firewall, maybe a Cisco Firewall or something like that and then it would automatically create a site-to-site VPN between it and Azure. So, it all look like it was on your network anyway, but it was over the public internet. So, there's varying qualities of connection and different bandwidth issues and all that sort of stuffs, so this just gives a much more bulletproof kind of robust and enterprise grade connection.

[21:00] Andrew: All right, cool. Now, does that play into this thing I saw about Windows as a service at all or?

[21:07] Chris: So, yeahóoh, I seeóyeah, you're talking about Remote App, I think.

[21:12] Andrew: I think so, yeah.

[21:13] Chris: Yeah, so it's called the Remote App service and that basically is a way to run Windows Client Apps but in the cloud.

[21:21] Andrew: So, kind of like it's Citrix kind of a thing?

[21:23] Chris: Yes, yes. And I'm not a major expert on this stuff so we may need to getóI've got some mates who could come on the show and talk more about this but that's how I understand it, yeah, that it's kind of like remote desktop for apps.

[21:37] Andrew: Very cool! And I saw a little bit of news both from the news out of TechEd and then it seems like Scott Hanselman's got a blog post that went out today that is, I think, number one or number two or number three, somewhere around there on Hacker News that everyone's kind of up-voting, some stuff around ASP.NET, it seemed pretty big, did you see that in the keynote or?

[21:57] Chris: No, he was doing that in the session right after the keynote. So, that was kind of like sort of a foundational session. But, as I understand it, they talked about ASP.NET vNext, which was codenamed Project K, which sounds awfully sinister, doesn't it?

[22:16] Andrew: It does, it sounds like a Doctor Who kind of a thing.

[22:19] Chris: Project K. And so, it's basically like it's a much more sort of cloud optimized is some of the words they're using, cloud optimize version of .NET sort of best suited for running in that environment. And then a whole lot of updates to ASP.NET things that they're doing to help build stuff for the cloud, everything from the open web interface for .NET. So OWIN, are you familiar with that?

[22:51] Andrew: Yep, yep.

[22:52] Chris: Yeah, all the way through to things they're doing with .NET and Xamarin and all these sorts of things. So, I need to catch up on all of the [23:02] session, but I think you'll start seeing moreóhigher release of cadences of some of the .NET improvements going forward as well now.

[23:11] Andrew: Sounds like a lot moreóeven though it's open-source, a lot moreóbeing a lot more open and being more cross-platform kind of a stuff potentially.

[23:17] Chris: Definitely! I mean, that's the talk of TechEd is, to be fair, that's the talk of TechEd. There's a lot of talk about multi-device sort of cross-platform stuff with Xamarin and .NET and iOS and Android and things like that. So, it's definitely a different kind of feel this year.

[23:40] Andrew: Very cool. Yeah, I heard someone interview too about from Mary Jo Foley on the .NET Rocks! show, where she said that BUILD seem like it was very much the same way too, things were a lot more open, a lot moreópeople were a lot more energized, yeah. So, what you got to if you went to the cloud, you got to be open.

[24:01] Chris: Exactly, I think that. Yeah, so one other piece of news on that is Visual Studio 2013 Update Two is released manufacturing. And that also coincides with some new Office 365 Tooling and APIsósorry, some Libraries that are available for the Office 365 APIs.

[24:22] Andrew: That's cool.

[24:24] Chris: So, there's a post and I'll also link to in the show note after the Office Blogs blogged on this and titled .NET and JavaScript Libraries for Office 365 APIs. And so, that post is from [24:35] over in Visual Studio Team and talks about a new set of tools or new release of the tools that you can download for better Visual Studio integration and things like that along with some Client Library APIsówrappers for those 365 APIs.

[24:54] Andrew: Very cool.

[24:55] Chris: Yeah, so we'll link off to that in the show notes.

[24:57] Andrew: Cool. Okay, so that's a bunch ofóI guess, that's a bunch of Azure andóI don't want to call it general dev, but non-product focused dev. So, let's talk a little bit about stuff they cameóthat was discussed around Office 365 today. So, what is this thing called Fort Knox?

[25:16] Chris: Oh, right! So, that is a codename. First off, that's a codename, but it wasóso, there's a new announcement at TechEd this morning was about encrypted storage in Office 365. So, this is all about addressing the concerns of encryption of data at REST. Right, so behind the scenes where your documents live and all that sort of stuff, ensuring that when you put a document in say, OneDrive for Business, that the document is securely stored in Office 365 in an encrypted state so that it's obviously much more protected than it would be just sort of in raw format on a disk somewhere. So, this is coming in, I believe, late June or July. I think the announcement was for July, originally it was codenamed Fort Knox, but it's basically encryption per file that sits in OneDrive for Business or SharePoint Online for that matter. So, all these documents are stored encrypted, they move around between different blobs behind the scenes, so it's all your documents are not just necessarily all in one place, stored in the same spot and they're not encrypted all with the same key. So, it's a pretty sophisticated encryption system to protect against data [26:56].

[26:58] Andrew: Very cool. That's got to be in line with one of theówas it called the encryption or the secrecy, privacy, whatever you call them, the guidelines and stuff the different governments are starting to come up with in response to all the news over the last winter from the stuff being leaked.

[27:18] Chris: Yeah, yeah, so there's little bit more detail on thisóyou know how you normallyóin a SharePoint On-Prem deployment, you put a document in the library or put say, 10 documents in the library in the same site and it will all go into the same database behind the scenes. So, now on 365 your documents are going to be spread across different Azure storage containers and they're all going to have different credentials and also the map of where files sit in all of those different storage containers is also encrypted.

[27:52] Andrew: Well, that's give me a nightmare to try and put those back together but that's the point.

[27:56] Chris: That is the point.

[27:59] Andrew: Nothing that a person could do.

[28:01] Chris: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[28:03] Andrew: Cool! Okay, and so that's the Encrypted Storage you're talking about, the Fort Knox, data at REST and everything, right?

[28:09] Chris: Yeah, exactly.

[28:10] Andrew: So, any news about Officeóany other news about Office that you saw?

[28:16] Chris: Yeah, there'sóso, although it was specifically announced at TechEd in the keynote, at least not that I heard, although there was a hell of a lot covered in the keynote, so I could have missed this, was thisóagain another blog post just went up this morning on Office for the iPad and it now includes printing capabilities. So, that was one of the big sort of missing features that people really noticed. I'm not a big iPad user, but I heard some news or some noise at the time about when Office for the iPad came out and how people wanted to be able to print. So, that's now possible.

[28:52] Andrew: You mean like that stuff that made of trees, right?

[28:56] Chris: Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, papyrus, is that it? So, this hooks up with AirPrint, the Apple printing technology, the Wi-Fi.

[29:11] Andrew: That's very cool!

[29:12] Chris: So you can print to a printer that you've already hooked up or that you can connect to on the network over Wi-Fi.

[29:18] Andrew: Have youóyou ever seen that or you ever try that, the AirPrint? How that works?

[29:23] Chris: I have. It wasóalthough, admittedly it was a long time ago when it first came out.

[29:27] Andrew: Oh my god! That is absolutely awesome. I bought a printer in our house. I have one in my home office, we have two-story house and my wife was begging for a printer downstairs, she's up doing homework a lot with the kids downstairs or with my son downstairs and not doing it up in his room. So, it would have been easier to have one downstairs and we went [29:50], I think I found like a $50 printer on Amazon and, oh my Gosh! It's amazing how well it works. There's no drivers or anything, I mean, if there are they're completely transparency to you, you justó

[30:03] Chris: Yeah, sort of spin off behind the scenes, yeah.

[30:05] Andrew: Yeah, from your tablet, from your phone, from youróit's great butó

[30:09] Chris: I love it! It sort of very familiar for howówith how Chromecast works, I don't know if you've ever played with a Chromecast, but the way the plug-in for Chromecast sort of detects Chromecast on the network. It's pretty straightforward.

[30:24] Andrew: That's really cool.

[30:25] Chris: Sort of sniffs your network for printers that are broadcasting.

[30:30] Andrew: Very cool!

[30:32] Chris: Yes, so that's kind of the big one. There's another improvements Office for the iPad or the smart guy, which is sort of theówhen you're dragging and dropping shapes and things around on the page and it will show youóyou know, when you're at the same distance between different objects and things? So, that's also included.

[30:49] Andrew: Gotcha! Very cool! And for those of you who are listening to this episode in the car, that's a siren from Houston, that's not one behind you.

[30:58] Chris: They're coming for me.

[30:59] Andrew: Yeah, I can't stand it when I'm listening to something or something there's a siren on the radio and I'm looking around like where is that? I can't see its lights or anything.

[31:06] Chris: Yeah, yeah, it's all outside.

[31:08] Andrew: Yeah, I know where it is, I'm looking at my windows seeing if it was in my neighborhood so I figured it had been yours. Cool! Anything else you saw this morning that it would beóthat you want to share with our listeners?

[31:18] Chris: There were couple of other Azure related things that were pretty minor. I can't actually remember if they were talked about in keynote but I've noticed the news trickling out as part of the same press releases from TechEd. Support for capturing images VMs in Azure with both the OS and the data drive connected, so being able to do one sort of snapshot with all of the different drives and things like that. That was pretty cool. On the same networking theme, yeah, we talked about ExpressRoute or Route, if you're from here, andóbut, the other one was multiple site-to-site VPNs. So, that was kind of cool, which wasówe talked about this in a show or two ago when we spoke about the course up on Kerrb.com, the Azure course, but about one of the posts in that series is about showing you how to set up a point-to-site VPN between your laptop and Azure. But, you can also do those site-to-site VPNs between your firewall and Azure and also now you can do multiple of those site-to-site VPNs. So, this is good if you've got two Offices in different parts of the world or different parts of the country or what have you and you can set up multiple VPNs site-to-site from On-Prem to Azure.

[32:40] Andrew: Wow!

[32:42] Chris: It's kind of nice, so it's all, you know, makes it easy to connect everything all up and so you got access to the same things, and then on the sameóin similar vein, you could also connect Azure to Azure. So, I know that sounds a little wacky and confusing but you might haveósay, you've got a whole bunch of virtual machines in a European data center and you've got a whole bunch of virtual machines in a US data center, now you can connect the different virtual networks on those different Azure data centers together so machines can talk across VNETs.

[33:17] Andrew: Oh, my Gosh! That's crazy. Some of these features that they keep coming up with on Azure, you're justóyou know, and they're doing it because there's a demand for it somewhere, but you keep hearing these things come up and it's like, really somebody needs that? Oh, my Gosh!

[33:32] Chris: Yeah, yeah. Well, the one that really piques my interest as well was being able to reserve and IP.

[33:39] Andrew: Oh, yes.

[33:39] Chris: So, I haven't dug in to this too much, I just saw the announcement but being able toómaybe we touch on this a little while back, maybe it was talked about at BUILD, yeah, being able to reserve up to five IP addresses per subscription?

[33:52] Andrew: And five internal IPs, right? Or are they externals?

[33:54] Chris: No, these are externals.

[33:56] Andrew: Oh, wow!

[33:56] Chris: Yeah, yeah. So, I think you can go getóI'm pretty sure you can go getóyeah, they're external. So, you can go reserve them and point stuff at.

[34:05] Andrew: Very cool! Lots of stuffs.

[34:07] Chris: Not bad. Azure is smashing it. That is, I'm constantly impressed by the cadence they get stuff out at.

[34:16] Andrew: Yeah, they're racing along. It's very nice to be involved, they're paying attention to what they're doing and being able to use their stuff and thisóyou have to just kind ofóyou've pick an architecture when you're on a project withóif you're doing something in the cloud on Azure, you have to pick it, you have to stick with it and not look at the shiny object that keeps coming out every few minutes, I've gotó

[34:37] Chris: I know, I know. I want to try this API Management thing, it looks cool, like as a developer that makes me very, sort of, juiced up and excited about it.

[34:47] Andrew: Well, it does. I mean, even with a start-up that we have with Kerrb, I know we've talked about doing an API and it's kind of on our roadmap, and we put a little bit of thought into what it would take to go through and host the API and stuff and seeing this is like, oh no, wait a minute, so I just build the API and you guys can do all that analytics stuff that we were having to check on and the reverse lookups of where things were coming from is you can't use like Google analytics and something like that, so or you can't very easily, I should say. That's prettyó

[35:15] Chris: Yeah, you got to do a whole bunch of manual work whereas it's just out-of-the-box, you get a whole bunch of really cool tools to cover a lot of those scenarios.

[35:25] Andrew: Yeah, pretty cool. Very cool! Well, sounds like you're havingógot a whole lot of stuffs just in the keynotes, so maybe we'll get a lot more news coming out later this week.

[35:34] Chris: Yeah, I'll keep some notes. I'll try to get along to some sessions, I'm mostly working at the Office 365 booth on the Expert Floor and I have a whole lot of meetings with various other partners and ISVs and that sort of thing, but so that's keeping me busy, but y'all stay tuned for other news that I hear about. It's a massive expo flow this year, I got to say. There's a lot of people exhibiting, so I want to try and get around and see what people are up to and other cool apps.

[36:05] Andrew: Well, very cool! That's a good little update we got for everybody here. So, I guess we can go ahead and wrap it up. Is there anything else you want to add before we close up shop for the week?

[36:14] Andrew: No, I just say thanks, last time we made a call out for people to send in feedback and send in questions and things and we got a bunch of that which was really great. We can always do with more, so please keep it coming. But, it was really reassuring that people were listening and were keen to keep us on the ball to continue this. So, that was a real help and it was great to hear from everybody.

[36:40] Andrew: Yeah, I'll echo that. I mean, it wasówe definitely wantóI would say that would be something we want to add almost in every single show is we always want to hear from you. We want more questions coming in. I guess, we got lots of feedback, we're going to get many questions other than just show ideas, which we very much appreciate, got a lot of really good ideas that we're going to go with some future shows. But, yeahómore feedback, put more questions in and all that's definitely welcome. So, I guess with that we'll go and wrap it up and I guess until next time we'll talk again soon, CJ.

[37:12] Chris: Yeah, thanks AC.

[37:13] Andrew: All right, everybody have a good one.

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